Have you noticed how more and more, people are driving with their fog lights on when it's simply not necessary to do so? They're for bad fog for gawds sake - not dusk driving! Four lights facing you increases glare and is dangerous. I reckon they think it makes the car look sexy, but I don't see the logic when no-one knows who's driving the bloody thing! I'm led to believe that it's against the law to use fogs when conditions don't require them. It's just another example of how inconsiderate modern drivers are becoming. So there.

ttsteve wrote:Have you noticed how more and more, people are driving with their fog lights on when it's simply not necessary to do so? They're for bad fog for gawds sake - not dusk driving! Four lights facing you increases glare and is dangerous. I reckon they think it makes the car look sexy, but I don't see the logic when no-one knows who's driving the bloody thing! I'm led to believe that it's against the law to use fogs when conditions don't require them. It's just another example of how inconsiderate modern drivers are becoming. So there.

Yep it is against the law. However I think there is simply a high % out there who are not aware that they are only meant to be used in bad visibility ( heavy rain being one) I have seen police pull motorists for driving with their fog lights on.

I find that rear fog lights are more of a problem than fronts.
I assume they think that people will leave a bigger gap.
The problem is that the glare of the lights makes it more difficult to judge the gap so you could end up driving closer and when the brake lights come on the difference is not so big so you are more likely to go steaming into the back of them.

I was driving down the motorway in perfect visibility when I went past a dot matrix sign saying "fog".
The driver of the car in front immediately switched on the fog lights.
I don't think it was a BMW

I never use them I can't see the point to be honest, I find them pretty useless in the fog.

dont think front fogs are against the law but back ones are police pulled a few drivers
near me came out the fog drove about a quarter of a mile and they were stopping them.

keith wrote:dont think front fogs are against the law but back ones are police pulled a few drivers
near me came out the fog drove about a quarter of a mile and they were stopping them.

Definatley against the law in scotland £25 on the spot fine,dont agree the front ones blind you,at least any cars iv'e seen with them on havent bothered me,the rears however can be very bright.

They are against the law to have them on if it's not necessary to do so and if you are pulled by the police they give you an on the spot £30. At leas the do in north wales

My answer 100 watt bulbs on full beam, they love it ha ha ha ha even better a hand held hunting lamp just incase they're behind you - awesome see them trying to see where they're going

fishface wrote:I never use them I can't see the point to be honest, I find them pretty useless in the fog.

I have to agree. Fog lights are a valiant and old fashioned attempt to see better in foggy conditions, when in truth that technology (to see through fog) is for a future generation. I suppose in very bad fog they can help you see the kirb - that's about it. Pretty useless generally. Les reckoned they have a use in heavy rain, I just can't see it myself. They're largely just an abused fashion accessory if you ask me. Mainly by Minis, BMWs and hatches. We all know the sort.

one word...........TOSSERS!

ttsteve wrote:

fishface wrote:I never use them I can't see the point to be honest, I find them pretty useless in the fog.

Les reckoned they have a use in heavy rain, I just can't see it myself. They're largely just an abused fashion accessory if you ask me. Mainly by Minis, BMWs and hatches. We all know the sort.

I think you forget that lights are not just for seeing .................. They are also for being seen in any greatly reduced visibility. To but it bluntly they help others seen you coming as much as you seeing a head.

les wrote:

ttsteve wrote:

fishface wrote:I never use them I can't see the point to be honest, I find them pretty useless in the fog.

Les reckoned they have a use in heavy rain, I just can't see it myself. They're largely just an abused fashion accessory if you ask me. Mainly by Minis, BMWs and hatches. We all know the sort.

I think you forget that lights are not just for seeing .................. They are also for being seen in any greatly reduced visibility. To but it bluntly they help others seen you coming as much as you seeing a head.

I agree that's why I use dipped headlights instead.

Use of fog lights front and rear is illegal unless visibility is less than 100 metres - sorry just my driving instructor side coming out

Les

ttsteve wrote:Have you noticed how more and more, people are driving with their fog lights on when it's simply not necessary to do so? They're for bad fog for gawds sake - not dusk driving! Four lights facing you increases glare and is dangerous. I reckon they think it makes the car look sexy, but I don't see the logic when no-one knows who's driving the bloody thing! I'm led to believe that it's against the law to use fogs when conditions don't require them. It's just another example of how inconsiderate modern drivers are becoming. So there.

Totally agree. They are illegal when used innappropriately as per RTA and - the highway code says they should be used in fog when visibility is below 100 metres. In rain they are dangerous. At any other time they dazzle and distract:

226
You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236).
[Law RVLR regs 25 & 27]

236
You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.
[Law RVLR regs 25 & 27] http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTr ... /DG_069859

Some people turn them on because they think it looks cool (forum rules prevent a character appraisal here)
Some people turn them on as they think it makes them more visible (dazzling actually)
Some people have forgotten to turn them off (they usually have one bulb blown - or better still both bulbs blown!)

They are pretty useless. We rarely ever get fog below 100m visibility but some people turn them on if the weather forcast in the next county said it might be foggy next week. It annoys me when someone in front of me turns their rear fog light on - do they think I am blind? Well I'm blinded now!

On the odd occasion that I've been in thick fog the most pathetic sight is the crocodile of cars all blinding each other with their fog lights crawling along bumper to bumper - if only they turned them off then they would be able to see further down the road. Literally the blind leading the blinded

Bring back public information films!

fishface wrote:Les reckoned they have a use in heavy rain, I just can't see it myself. They're largely just an abused fashion accessory if you ask me. Mainly by Minis, BMWs and hatches. We all know the sort.

I think you forget that lights are not just for seeing .................. They are also for being seen in any greatly reduced visibility. To but it bluntly they help others seen you coming as much as you seeing a head.[/quote]

I agree that's why I use dipped headlights instead. [/quote]

When you use fog lights the only other lights your supposed to use are your side lights. God do I have to tell you people everything I think there's a few who need to brush up on the lighting laws and highway code etc